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Wednesday, October 16th 2002              Page 2                                  Page 3

Venice City Hall

7:30 pm.


Tha V.A.S.I. Angle





Well if you weren’t there last month you missed a great and informative meeting.  Larry Heath spoke about many changes in ownership of commercial hangers that occurred over the summer months.  And we found out some more about what’s in store with the bridge work and the Business Air Park.   This month  John Moore, a candidate for Venice City Council has asked us for a few minutes of our time.  It’s nice to know we may have some clought.  And the big topic of this meeting will be:


                           “What is the future of V.A.S.I?”  








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Smith Propeller’s


In the mid-30s the navy was supporting development of three types of variable-pitch propeller the Hamilton-Standard hydraulic controlled system, the Curtiss Electric propeller, and the SMITH propeller that was operated entirely mechanically. The pilot had a manually operated control in the cockpit by which, through mechanism, he could vary the pitch of his propeller blades. Early Grumman biplane fighters joining the fleet were equipped with SMITH propellers. Remember those pregnant looking fat-bellied airplanes with retractable landing gear? And one of these,
taking off from an aircraft carrier out of San Diego suffered loss of power on launch and went down into the sea directly ahead of the oncoming carrier. They had the good fortune to be able to get a line to the floating aircraft; legend leaves some doubt that the pilot even got his feet wet. The airplane was promptly hosed down with fresh water and, brought ashore, was soon packaged onto a railroad car and shipped to the Naval Aircraft Factory at Philadelphia Navy Yard for cleaning, repair and refurbishment, inspection, flight test and return to the fleet. This
included complete teardown examination of the SMITH propeller and re-assembly with the blades carefully reset to their proper pitch.
The reassembled airplane was test flown at Mustin Field, inspected and signed off for return to San Diego. While the assigned Navy ferry pilot had never flown one of the exciting, new Grumman fighters, no one seemed to have felt concern in the matter. Wa-a-ay off schedule, he staggered into the Great Lakes Naval Air Training station in Chicago and plunked the thing
Everybody was saying, 'Where the hell have you been,' etc. And he says, 'Guys, this is the first Grumman I've ever flown, and if this is the 'GREAT Grumman' I've been hearing so much about-it stinks.'
"Well, now, Ensign, what's the trouble?"
'It won't take off, it won't climb, it's got no ceiling, it runs hot and it
vibrates like hell.'
"Well, obviously, you don't know how to fly a Grumman, 'cause that's a great
airplane. You stand down and get the Lieutenant here to take it onto the
West Coast."
So again, way behind schedule, this Lieutenant makes it on into San Diego, but he has the look of being wrung out when he checks in.  And he says, Guys, that airplane is all wrong. I have had it checked at five airfields on the way out here. TWA mechanics were good enough to come over and they went over it. And I've been in and out of it and there's something definitely wrong.  It stinks! I had to land on the road and taxi across the Rocky Mountains! It didn't have enough ceiling to get over!'
They turned to some old aviation chief there and said, "Go look at the guy's
He's back in 10 minutes, lit up like a lamp and he says, "Excuse me Lieutenant, you said you checked that airplane?"
'Oh boy, have we checked it!'
"You say TWA checked it, and American checked it, etc . ?"
"If I'm not asking too much Lieutenant," he says, "will you come out and
look at the airplane with me?"
They go out and the chief says, "Just look at it."
'Yeah, well ... ?" He couldn't' see anything wrong.
"Lieutenant, will you please step over and pull the engine through?"
The minute he put his hands on the propeller, he lit up! He knew! His hands were curled over the rounded leading edge of the propeller! The SMITH was perhaps the only propeller in history where you could get the blades in backwards!  The pitch of the blades had been set accurately at Philadelphia, on the big steel surface plates with big protractors and everything, but they were 180 degrees around!
And this thing had flown across the continent with the sharp trailing edge plowing ahead and the rounded part on the back. Of course, in the Navy, every incident gets written down on a piece of paper. The form was known as a Trouble Report. Roy (Grumman) had this thing, this Trouble Report saying, Propeller blades in backwards' framed and displayed for many years. His
wonderful new airplane had just crossed the country with the propeller blades on backwards!

Don't you love a good flying story?


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Down the Left hand side as usual the officers and address ( you can make it smaller if you like)



Right side (no application)

“If there is not enough room suggest putting some on the front or we can leave for next month. Just want to make the newsletter jam packed.”


Pilot & control tower conversations

 Conversations that  passengers normally don't hear. The following are
accounts of actual exchanges between airline pilots and control towers
from around the world...

While taxiing, the crew of a US Air flight departing for Ft.Lauderdale
made a wrong turn and came nose to nose with a United 727.  The irate
female ground controller lashed out at the US Air crew, screaming: "US
Air 2771, where are you going? I told you to turn right onto Charlie
taxiway! You turned right on Delta! Stop right there. I know it's
difficult for you to tell the difference between C's and D's, but get it
Continuing her tirade to the embarrassed crew, she was now shouting
hysterically: "God, you've screwed everything up! It'll take forever to
sort this
out! You stay right there and don't move till I tell you to! You can
progressive taxi instructions in about half an hour, and I want you to
exactly where I tell you, when I tell you, and how I tell you! You got
that, US
Air 2771?"
"Yes ma'am," the humbled crew responded.
Naturally the ground control frequency went terribly silent after the
bashing of US Air 2771. Nobody wanted to engage the irate ground
in her current state. Tension in every cockpit at LGA was running high.
Then an unknown pilot broke the silence and asked, "Wasn't I married
to you once?"

The controller working a busy pattern told the 727 on downwind to make a
three-sixty, that is, to make a complete circle, a move normally used to
provide spacing between aircraft.

The pilot of the 727 complained, "Don't you know it costs us two
thousand dollars to make even a one-eighty in this airplane?"

Without missing a beat the controller replied, "Roger that.  Give me
four thousand
dollars' worth."

A DC-10 had an exceedingly long rollout after landing with his approach
speed a little high.
San Jose Tower: "American 751 heavy, turn right at the end of the
runway, if able. If not able, take the Guadalupe exit off Highway101 and
make a right at the light to return to the airport."



The German air controllers at Frankfurt Airport are a short-tempered
lot. They not only expect one to know one's gate parking location, but
how to get there without any assistance from them. So it was with some
amusement that we (a Pan Am 747) listened to the following exchange
between Frankfurt ground control and a British Airways 747, call sign
"Speedbird 206":
Speedbird 206: "Top of the morning, Frankfurt, Speedbird 206 clear of
the active runway."
Ground: "Guten Morgen. You vill taxi to your gate."
The big British Airways 747 pulled onto the main taxiway and slowed to a
Ground: "Speedbird, do you not know where you are going?"
Speedbird 206: "Stand by a moment, Ground, I'm looking up our gate
location now."
Ground (with arrogant impatience): "Speedbird 206,  haff you never flown
to Frankfurt before?"
Speedbird 206 (coolly): Yes, I have, actually, in 1944.  In another type
of Boeing, but just to drop something off. I didn't stop."

O'Hare Approach Control: "United 329 heavy, your traffic is a Fokker,
one o'clock, three miles, eastbound."

United 239:  "Approach, I've always wanted to say this...I've got that
Fokker in sight."




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